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Like him or not, Jon Bruning will win out on this issue. People who are sympathetic are always quick to point out we are a nation of immigrants. Yes, we are. God Bless America for that. What they conveniently ignore is the word “illegal.” I think his assertion that illegal is illegal will win in court, even if it doesn’t in the court of public opinion. His office gives him a lot of protection from personal lawsuits and whatnot. He’s sitting in a good place, even if it’s not a popular place.

Yes, we should all pat ourselves on the back for having ancestors who did things the “right” way by arriving here before 1924. We had, in effect, no immigration controls before that time and last time I checked, the United States didn’t collapse in on itself during that era.

Maybe Fletch, but since Federal trumps State with regard to HUD, how is he going to win, regardless of your assertion that ‘illegal is illegal’? The Federal law that he is not following doesn’t say anything about citizenship status, and protection under the law is not ‘non-emergency’ benefits. They aren’t applying for welfare, here, they are demanding basic human decency.

If Bruning was a black, anti-religion leftist from Omaha, he would have a statue in front of the capital building, which would be named after him.  He would be heralded for standing by his principles and get daily glowing profiles in the Lincoln Journal Star.  The comments on the LJS story are quite frightening.

Hey everybody, look, it’s Strawman Dave to the rescue!

The law is the law, and has been pointed out, the law was carefully written to include all people regardless of citizenship.

I lose track, guys. I thought we were supposed to put emotion aside and oppose illegal immigrants because the law is the law, and we must uphold the law of the land. But we’re supposed to cheer Jon Bruning for not only fighting state and federal law, but for costing the state hundreds of thousands of dollars each year in the process?

‘Straw man’ must be counter-argument of the day ... regardless, you completely missed the point.

Jon Bruning would just say that you’re supposed to cheer for him and leave it at that.

Since it appears to me your point is based upon a fabricated scenario that you created in order to prove your fantasy, why don’t you go ahead and explain your point then, Dave.

I didn’t say, or mean to imply, that I am cheering for Bruning. The question is what *I* think the outcome will be. In this case, my prediction is that the outcome will be to Jon Bruning’s liking. That’s along the same lines as my prediction that there would be no more snow in Lincoln or that the football team will win 8 or 9 games this year. I wasn’t implying anything on the status of illegals or (for Swid) implying that the country is collapsing in on itself over the issue of illegals and Bruning vs. the NEOC. Perhaps my “illegal is illegal” phrase is as poorly used as it was by him, but I was trying to paraphrase Mr. W.

Thank you, Mr Wilson. This discussion inspired my cartoon for Sunday.

Noted, Fletch-His assertion, not yours.
Sorry! 😊

CAS

No worries. I think Bruning is one of those politicians that just comes off as unlikable every time he opens his mouth. He reminds me of Steve Pederson in that way. I am glad SP is gone, but I did feel bad for him once in awhile, in that once in awhile he would say exactly the right thing, but he had that stupid smirk and condescending look that ruined the message.

I have a couple of friends from South America that live here and are on student visas. I had a discussion with one a few weeks ago, and she told me how long it will take her to become a US citizen by following the proper procedures. It seems to me that the visa she’s on now will be replaced by a work visa or something, and she’ll have that for 5 years, and then there’s another wait and a test and by the time it’s said and done, she will have lived here for a decade or more before she can be a citizen. When you see that commitment and desire in a young person, to me, that’s what our ancestors had. There are a ton of hard-working illegals here and I am not advocating rounding them up and sending them home, but I hate to see millions of people just skirt the system when so many are trying to follow the rules and do it the right way. I am equally as ticked about the thousands of Nebraskans that illegally title their cars elsewhere. The issue for me is that the people that obey the rules, which includes probably all of the readers and posters at Lincolnite, do suffer because of others that don’t. That irritates me to no end. However, I’m not some angry loon walking the border with a gun. Does that make sense?

My big hangup is that our ancestors signed a book at Ellis-it didn’t take a decade or more with thousands of dollars in fees and BS (more fees) and lost paperwork, and (fees) to get it done. They can always manage to make it happen when it looks good on TV (a Marine, 2 yr hitch, yadda yadda) but poor, working class people get the shaft it seems.

In response to your digression Dave - The thing is, Ernie Chambers (assuming that is who you are referring to) isn’t admired for being a “black, anti-religion leftist.” Come on man.

In order for that to be true, I’d have to believe that Ernie would get the same admiration if he was a white, religious right-winger.  In fact, there are such folks in politics today who get destroyed in the media and elsewhere for the types of things Ernie is worshiped for.