The Myth, The Legend, The Arena

By: Mr. Wilson on May 5, 2010
Deena Winter has a list of ten arena myths in this morning's Journal Star. An example:
Opponents say every dollar spent on the arena is a dollar not spent on city services, such as sidewalks and streets. Not true. The arena project will be paid for with new taxes on bars, restaurants, hotels and car rentals, which will cover about half the cost. Then arena revenue, state tax dollars, parking revenue and developer payments for land will cover the rest. None of those revenue sources currently are available to the city to spend on regular city services.
She covers myths from both supporters and opponents.


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May 5, 2010 at 1:53PM

After that, the total number of employees created by the arena itself is 60. And that doesn’t take into account the 11 full-time employees and 190 part-timers who work at Pershing Center who would either lose their jobs or work in the new arena.

I’m so… unimpressed.

May 5, 2010 at 2:07PM

It appears that even DeeNo is having a hard time coming up with compelling reasons not to vote for this arena, even though she’s done her best to throw a wet blanket on it for months.

May 5, 2010 at 2:51PM

No kidding. She’s been whining about how the project is backed by property taxes for months and now has no clue why the opponents are so concerned with their property taxes. Give me a break.

May 5, 2010 at 2:55PM

I’m a pro-arena guy. However, as I’ve stated for a long time, I think the whole jobs number is smoke and mirrors. I would never use that as a compelling reason to vote for, or against, the project. It will have a lot of construction jobs for 3 years for sure, but are those people who will drop everything and move to Lincoln and be fresh Lincolnites? Most likely no. They will be people getting extra hours, or doing temp construction work, or being taken off other jobs.

However, the arena is still needed (IMHO) as evidenced by any rational person who has taken in any event at Pershing in recent years.

May 5, 2010 at 3:19PM

So, if we don’t believe the Arena is needed, and have taken an event at Pershing, we should consider ourselves to be “irrational”?  I’ll note that as I vote No to the Arena 😊

May 5, 2010 at 4:03PM

I am not trying to name call. I would consider that irrational in the same way that people in the Country Club area live in denial that 27th Street is a major throughway and should be widened.

If you think Pershing is a great facility, that’s fine by me. I just don’t think that’s a reality. I applaud you to exercising your right to vote. Congrats!

May 5, 2010 at 4:05PM

That was supposed to be a reply above - not sure why that doesn’t work for me about half the time.

May 5, 2010 at 4:53PM

It is pretty sad that this has gone the route of the TEA party.

So I will just add a bit more gas to the fire.

If you vote against the arena Obama will come to your house and take away your guns because ACORN was put in charge of counting the votes.

Al Gore, who is controlled by George Soros, used their shadow government to dump all the fuel in the train yard way back then so they could get the no bid contract to clean it up.

Mayor Beutler snuck an amnesty clause to protect the construction companies hiring illegals in the 4,000 page arena bill with a signing statement. DID ANYONE EVEN READ THE BILL?

The popcorn that will be sold in the arena will not come from NE farmers.

The steel used in the construction will come from communist China.

May 5, 2010 at 5:09PM

*still rofl*

Thanks, BeerOrKid.

Dave K
May 6, 2010 at 4:18AM

Yeah, because there isn’t a single reason to vote against this arena.  It’s the perfect plan to be executed by city officials, a perfect bunch of people!

May 6, 2010 at 4:29AM

What will your sign say?

I plan on picketing every road crew doing work from now on.  How dare they spend my taxes improving our city.

How dare they make our city more attractive to outside sources of income.  They are just playing into Pelosi’s hands.


At least we have the conservatives passing legislation that is going to cost millions in court fees to fight so a few folks can get reelected.  is that where our our money should go?  To fight BS pretend conservative legislation?

How is that while fiscal conservative make believe stance working out for ya Dave?

May 6, 2010 at 4:30AM

* whole

Dave K
May 6, 2010 at 4:42AM

The irony of a pro-arena person calling the anti-arena crowd sheeple is thick enough to cut with a knife. 

Are you suggesting we not pass laws in fear of fringe left-wingers who are going to tie up our court system because some legislation interferes with their goal of mass infanticide?

But anyways, if a fiscal conservative supporting that legislation is a hypocrite, then so is a liberal who opposes it. Do you oppose those laws?

May 6, 2010 at 4:45AM

It is very telling you did not understand the sheeple term.

You are a source of amazing entertainment every time you post.  Thanks for that.

May 6, 2010 at 4:54AM

How am I pro arena?

I am just anti teabagger style politics.

The debate is childish and so polluted with lies from special interests.  It is disgusting.

What works on the sheeple is revolting from both sides.  Get info from multiple sources and make an informed decision.

May 6, 2010 at 1:16PM

I’m wondering Beer… why you see a person voting no to the Arena as being the same person who is going to picket the Arena.  Do people you personally know, and who are voting against what you are, typically do this?  If so, I think I may find another group of friends to hang out with!

May 6, 2010 at 1:41PM

I mentioned picketing road crews, not the arena.  You know, when the evil city is spending my tax dollars I am outraged.

The post we are commenting on is about the insane myths around this arena.  I am simply listing off a few more.

Did you know they are going to use panda spleen in the mortar to build the arena?

May 7, 2010 at 1:05PM

Sometimes voting no on a project really has nothing to do with the project itself, but with where we feel our money is best served.  After reading yet another news article about the dismal condition of the Nebraska Foster Care system, I have a hard time saying that I want $34 million put towards an arena when children are languishing in detention centers because all the agencies that were set up to take care of them weren’t paid enough by the state and are going belly up.  I’d rather see taxes put on those same things; hotels, rentals, etc. and have it go to help raise these children who will are our future adults.  But that’s just me.

Mr. Wilson
May 7, 2010 at 1:28PM

Your priorities are certainly in line, but know that voting “no” on the arena project will have exactly zero effect on Nebraska’s foster care system. Neither will it influence Nebraska’s roads; Arizona’s policies on illegal immigration; nor the U.S.‘s relationship with Israel. They are all entirely distinct beasts.

There are perfectly valid arguments that this project isn’t an ideal and/or appropriate use of taxpayer funds. I’m sympathetic to many of them. But creating an imaginary link to foster care doesn’t help anybody—certainly not Nebraska’s foster kids.

That being said, as somebody who is newly involved in Nebraska’s foster care system I encourage you to speak out. The system sucks, and most participants know it. Three things will help improve it: money, energy, and creativity. Feel free to chip in any or all of the above.

May 7, 2010 at 1:52PM

I am aware that it will have exactly zero effect on Nebraska’s foster care system.  But then again, if everyone simply voted no and said “I voted no because I believe we should focus on an even more important aspect of our future; our children” it might go a long way.  But the foster care system isn’t as pretty and hip as the Arena.  So, even though my one vote will do exactly nothing for the foster care system, it will do something towards the over all vote, and my conscience.  And I’m good with that.

Mr. Wilson
May 7, 2010 at 2:01PM

<em>But then again, if everyone simply voted no and said

May 7, 2010 at 2:18PM

“Why would the state care that you said no to a local issue?”

I said “everyone”, not just one person, and it’s not a local issue since state taxes will be diverted towards what the local taxes don’t cover. 

In regards to writing a letter, my husband is big into politics and writes letters all the time.  Watching on the sideline, the only thing I see it resulting in is some wonderful generic return letters that ultimately help out the postal system’s revenue.  So I guess that is a bonus!

May 7, 2010 at 5:40PM

Do you work for the State, Cedars or Visinet or other agency?

If you do, then you’ll know that the providers(agencies as you called them) went into the contract fully aware that the money they received would be all that they would get.  It is not the State

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