Lincolnite

Vote for who you believe is better for your ideals. 

While I truly believe neither candidate is ideal fit for me, the lesser of the two evils is apparent.  McCain is a moderate and will run the country as such, to get things done.  Palin is a little extreme right, but with any luck will realize compromises have to be made if an administration is to be productive, after some time in washington. 

Both Biden and Obama are so far left it is not even funny.  Both of them are very anti-gun.  Very anti self-reliance.  Big givernment spenders. (yes that’s spelled wrong for a reason).  Entitlement is their key motto, and unfortunately all the “dependents” in this country will always cheer for it. 

I choose moderate over severe left.

They will be the best to dig us out of the mess we are in.  Contrary to what the above poster says, Obama and Biden are far more moderate than McCain and Palin are.

One example: Health care.  Our nation has been systematically lied to on this issue.  We do not have the best health care system in the world.  Anyone who says this is simply ignorant, or is looking to hold on to power.  America’s health care costs go up when hospitals must foot the bill for people who have no insurance but must be treated for emergencies.  America loses jobs to foreign countries who build factories in Canada because the cost of health care is cheaper there.  America tolerates the moral outrage of people going bankrupt or being dropped by their profit-hungry insurance companies because they cannot pay their bills.

Again, people who say our system is the best are simply ignorant or looking to hold on to power.  My fiancee, who grew up in Germany, is scared to death of what will happen if either one of us develops a catastrophic illness.  Will our insurance company will drop us?  That would never happen in Germany.

Self-reliance is all very well and good, but the market is simply not efficient at delivering health care.  Our costs are out of control and the quality of care we receive is not a good value.

It’s time for a change.  Any change, any move toward universal health care is better than nothing, which is what we would get from McCain and Palin.  So I vote for Obama.

I am going to agree with JM.  I am voting for Obama/Biden.  I think they will give us the best option to fix the current problems with our country be it Economic/War/Health Care or Social Services.  The most important thing though is that you go out and vote.  I don’t care who you are voting for or what your reason is but get out there and let your voice be heard.

I’m going to take this opportunity to shill for Earl Scudder. I really like his views on supporting stem cell research.

Wow @ “Obama and Biden are far more moderate than McCain and Palin”

McCain is a man of great character.  Although his positions require almost everyone to disagree with him on something, you can’t question his intentions as being what’s best for the country.  He has my vote.

Obama, on the other hand, is a closet Marxist.  Quite frighteningly, he’s become more and more open about it in the last few weeks.  The media’s support for him should be alarming to everyone.  We haven’t seen a propaganda campaign like the Obama/CNN/MSNBC/NYT/ABC/CBS/NBC campaign since the early 30s.

I could go on forever with reasons not to vote for Obama, but I’ll stop there.  People have a very clear decision to make, and the direction of the country for the next 10, maybe 20 years will be decided tomorrow.

I like Scudder too, for the same reason.

I’m really tired of hearing about how great McCain is and how shifty Obama is.  That is the refuge of someone who knows precious little about policy and who thinks about what they’d like in a president and not what would be good in a president.  McCain is erratic and a gambler, and has run a really reprehensible campaign.  No less a person than Gen. Colin Powell holds this view, as well as numerous other conservatives and liberals.  He and his surrogates have engaged, pretty blatantly, in race-baiting, questioning Obama’s patriotism, and guilt-by-association tactics.  That is not a character-driven campaign, that’s an I’ll-do-anything-to-win campaign.  So please, spare me the talk about how great McCain’s character is.  The McCain of 2000 was good.  The McCain of 2008 has sold his soul.

And about this “closet Marxist” stuff.  Never mind that Obama comes from the University of Chicago, which is famous for its free-market ideology, and never mind that he’s over and over stated that he’s a supporter of the free market.  If you think that McCain is going to be a fiscal moderate, sir, I have a bridge to sell you.  Neither candidate is going to cut spending.  But at least one of them is serious about fiscal responsibility.  And was endorsed by the Financial Times.  And The Economist.  Who is that candidate?  Oh yes - it was Obama, the “closet Marxist.”  Those socialists, y’know.  They all think alike.  </snark>

Three prominent socialists don’t even claim Obama.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28645

If you dislike his policies, fine, but don’t insult the intelligence of those of us that can read by suggesting outright fallacy.

Here’s a basic dictionary definition of “socialism,” from Webster’s New World College Dictionary:

1. any of various theories or systems of the ownership and operation of the means of production and distribution by society or the community rather than by private individuals, with all members of the society or the community sharing in the work and the products.

There is no nationalization of production or distribution in any of Obama’s economic plans for the US. The Federal Govt, however, does own a few banks now that you might be able to apply for a loan at.

From Wikipedia:

Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital and creates an unequal society. All socialists advocate the creation of an egalitarian society, in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how, and to what extent this could be achieved.

That’s the best summary of the Obama/Democratic talking points and policies I’ve read all year.  Obama and his supporters want to control as much of Americans’ money as they can.  Sure, we won’t be going to government outposts to get our daily rations of food, but when your goal is to ‘spread the wealth around’, you’re a socialist.

Obama’s desire to create a <strike>gestapo</strike> civilian defense force, and his recent purge of dissidents from his campaign plane, should be cause for concern for any American.

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Hmmm, I can’t add that one since I don’t pay much attention to them. But I did forget NPR, which is funded by taxpayers.

I have to agree with Dave on this one…now he’s advocating running the coal industry into the ground.  I’m not sure that’s the best idea for a country with an energy problem. 

I realize that a number of Americans are angry at Bush for the last 8 years of his presidency, I’m a bit angry for his inability to get the Federal budget under control myself.  However, voting for a wild-eyed socialist and radical just to get back at Bush sounds a lot like cutting off your arm to relieve your hangnail.

I agree that McCain is a great man, but his campaign has been an utter disgrace.  Obama wants fiscal responsibility, will cut government programs “with a scalpel,” will not raise taxes on 95% of the nation, and will let the Bush tax cuts expire.  He wants everyone to have affordable health care (this is not government run health care).  His energy policy is millenia ahead of McCain’s (coming from a UNL scientist here).  Obama said that instead of a new stimulus that is currently being proposed, he would like to see new spending on green infrastructure, like a new energy grid to transport and store windpower.  He is also a proponent of alternative biofuels which will be the future of Nebraska’s economy (remember I am a scientist that is seeing the research that is nearing in biofuels from cellulosic ethanol and algae, not crops).  McCain is for nuclear power that is not safe, no matter what he says about submarines.  Obama is a better candidate for Nebraska, and that is a rarity from the democrats. 

Johanns has ideas that are much further right than McCain’s (see George W. Bush), so I urge all to vote for Kleeb. 

Scudder will provide the leadership as a regent to continue research dollars into the state (= jobs), although he needs to get on the ball for illegal immigrant status for in state tuition.

Comments?

“The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. . . . The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. . . . It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion. ” Adam Smith 1776

A very socialist sounding idea if you are going to base it on the above definition, don’t you think?

Dave, don’t include me (an Obama supporter) in your blanket generalizations.  I don’t know you personally and don’t care about your money.  I’m not out to get your money, and neither is Obama.

By your logic, also, anyone who believes in having taxes - OF ANY KIND - is a socialist, because taxes are a form of “spreading the wealth around.”  Ergo, McCain is a socialist, because he believes in having taxes.  And so by your lights, you shouldn’t be voting for McCain because he’s a socialist.  Can you not see how absurd your reasoning is?  Seriously…go take a critical thinking course and stop getting all your news from Murdoch-and-Limbaugh-approved outlets.

Umm…you’re my hero?

See you at the polls.
CAS

Umm…you’re my hero?

A song for you.

Here’s your coal story:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=32228

The audio from the interview is embedded as well. Contrary to what Palin has been shoveling, this interview has been public domain for months. As to restricting the building of new coal plants? Okay-if it’s being replace by something that isn’t going to create acid rain and greenhouse gas, why not? The French have had clean pellet nuclear reactors for years now.

THAT was funny. Who says levity is dead?

Thanks Mr. Wilson. It’s been one of those days.

It was interesting watching Frontline a couple weeks ago on these two presidential candidates. They’re both decent, honorable men. It’s too bad the McCain campaign hasn’t reflected that.

In the last two elections I had faith that intelligent people would do okay with the polls, and our president wasn’t that bright. This year, we have two pretty bright guys, but based on comments, sling editorials, and arm chair bloggers, I fear that American’s aren’t ready and won’t know what to do with them.

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Dave,

<i>Since I already pay a significant amount in capital gains taxes, Obama

Regardless of what you want to call it, Obama is out to get our money.  If he wasn’t, then he wouldn’t be proposing huge tax increases.  And I’m sorry, asking me to give twice as much money to the government is not a reasonable request of me.  Is paying twice as much for a gallon of gas a reasonable request? Also, paying more taxes is not patriotic, as Joe Biden says. 

But your continued gain in wealth takes a moral backseat to the public good.

I’m sorry, but creating a huge welfare state is not morally superior to economic liberty.  Not in my opinion, nor that of our Founding Fathers. 

<i>Warren Buffett, who is probably richer than you, says he

NPR is also funded by several endowments…

including Woods Fund, and Annenberg Foundation (both boards include many noted slef proclaimed liberals…

heh

Both,  which Obama actually served on…

Chicago politics are some of the filthiest around,

Dirtier than DC?  I hope we do not find out

Ditto on the stem cell research. Plus he’s a nice guy.

So, to maintain your standard of living, my kids have to pay for your not wanting tax increases? It’s going to happen eventually, it may as well happen with a Deomocrat at the helm. At least you can kick him around for four years while you cry into your bowl of cheerios.

I’m sorry, but George W. Bush is the Jimmy Carter in this scenario.

If my taxes have to be doubled so that your kids don’t ‘have to pay’, then only you and the government is to blame. Your statement above reflects an incredibly warped view of the role of taxes in our republic.  The common acceptance of this disastrous view has helped to open the door for Obama.